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goes right there. make a huge difference. >> natural gas is cheap. >> yes, it is. >> this segment brought to you by your natural gas producers across america. seriously. at what point do we take control of our own destiny instead of worrying about moammar gadhafi. i got to tell it you, those fashion outfits are bitching. i need those headdresses. >> i'm going to have fortytude and like it. >> stick around for "the daily rundown" with chuck and savannah. moammar gadhafi now a powerful offensive. the rebels consider asking for outside help but would the u.s. answer the call? as american warships head to the region just what is the u.s. military willing to offer? oil futures rise above $100 a barrel a day after the dow slumped 1.5%. we'll check where the market is
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headed before the opening bell today. and flip-flop already? or just a communications mix-up. we'll get to the bottom of newt announcing for president thursday debacle. chuck has the back story. good morning. wednesday, march 2nd, 2011. i'm savannah guthrie. >> i'm chuck todd. amazing what making sure you have two sources do and can keep you out of trouble. we'll get more into that. all of that plus does michael huckabee think president obama grew up in kenya and will the beloved "the daily rundown" moth pad get a tablet today. let's get to the rundown. moammar gadhafi is vowing to fight to the last man as he ramps up efforts to hold onto his country in the face of a growing rebellion. pierce battles in the east and west. the libyan air force is bombing rebel territory sending forces to an oil base in the eastern
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city of brega. at the same time pro-gadhafi forces escalated counteroffenses closer to tripoli. we go live to the rebel strong hold of benghazi. this sounds like a full-fledged civil war, stephanie. >> reporter: i think that's what it's become. now you have for the first time today pro-gadhafi forces going after places here in the east that have been firmly in control of the opposition now for over a week. the town they went after first this morning called brega is not much of a town but an air strip and port where they export oil and then he moved on with some of his fighter jets to a town that's larger that's really become the western front for the opposition. there are a number of armed groups there. armed rebel forces. they keep bombing an arm depot there. they haven't bombed the town itself. we heard from gadhafi today. he repeated the things he's says
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before including the fact that he'll fight to the last man and woman and that a lot of this is driven by al qaeda. he also said something a bit new which is that the ports and that the oil refineries are all safe. it's an interesting way to put it. you have brega being attacked this morning and one of the largest ports close to the egyptian border very much in control by the opposition. >> all right. stephanie, thank you. back here in washington, congress is expected to approve a stop gap measure to keep the government up and running for another two weeks but the real fight still looms. kelly o'donnell, a lot of back and forth between the senate and house and white house and whether this two-week stop gap could be a four-week stop gap and in the end it obviously was going to be a two-week deal. what happened behind the scenes? >> there will be more back and
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forth right now because there will be shots at harry reid. speaker boehner will be critical of reid. he will say that last night what the house did that you referred to, passing a $4 billion cut package two weeks boehner will say that two weeks was to give reid more time and boehner will question whether reid has plan to extend the budget at all. there will be some tart words there and behind the scenes has been one where really senate democrats were pushed into a corner. the house republicans did come up with a plan that picked largely cuts the president said he could go for so senate democrats had to go along. i talked to some people behind the scenes at the caucus meeting, the group luncheon of democrats, and there was a lot of discomfort. a quick resignation they had to go along with this but looking to the next fight to extend this budget for a longer period or remainder of the year and we'll
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see tough fights over some of the issues that are really the heart and soul of democratic causes, things like planned parenthood and aid to women and children and education. those sorts of things where democrats say there must be a protection of the vulnerable and republicans are saying there's some room to make cuts there. so today at about 11:00 or so we'll see the senate pass this and in this hour we'll see john boehner taking some swings at harry reid. >> all right. kelly o'donnell on capitol hill for us. thanks very much. savannah, "wall street journal" poll day and later tonight we asked a battery of questions about what's acceptable and not acceptable on budget cuts and budget proposals and guess what? it's going to be very interesting results but neither side is fully winning this argument. we'll have more. >> a teaser. >> more later tonight. in wisconsin public union workers are battling to hold onto their collective bargaining rights and now they are facing a fight to hold onto their jobs. the governor's new plan to trim
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$1 billion from the budget includes many of those public workers. it's wednesday, those senate democrats are still in chicago i assume. what does unveiling of the budget by walker mean today given there's nobody to vote on it? >> reporter: what did you say before about neither side winning the argument so far, those senate democrats are still on the other side. i talked to a senator about ten minutes ago, he said if anything the governor's budget message strengthened the resolve of the awol senators and they will do it on a day by day basis. two weeks ago the governor declared war on the unions. yesterday in his budget message the governor made it clear he was declaring war on the people of wisconsin. those budget cuts that you are talking about is a cut in state aid to public schools and to local governments. the governor said he was giving
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flexibility to each of those school districts and cities and towns to offset those cuts but only flexibility is really on the backs of the unions in the sense of givebacks and legacy costs for medical coverage and for their pensions and also the loss of collective bargaining rights. that's it. the governor said the local cities and towns could not raise taxes so they can increase revenue so it's clear the governor's plan in this reform budget really has to do with the ability he'll only get in the cities and towns will only get if this budget repair bill is passed and those democrats won't come back to vote on. so the stalemate continues. it's really cold here and ten protesters slept outside. 107 slept inside. those 14 democrats are still on the other side of the line unwilling to come back and vote. >> quickly to check in, i know the governor talked about layoffs having to happen if tuesday had passed and also the inability to refinance the debt. where are we on those two
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issues? >> reporter: he's not going to refinance the debt because that can only happen if 14 democrats came back and layoffs are a very real possibility. every city and town is looking at a cut in state aid. some small towns like sbeuperio $3 million people for one small town. they'll have to lay people off until and unless there is savings and flexibility that governor talked about getting givebacks from the union. the governor says it could be as many as 12,000 by the end of june. >> mike, thank you. on wall street now, u.s. stocks were pointed toward a lower open on wednesday as oil prices moved over $100 a barrel. that higher price of crude helped push gas prices 20 cents up in just a week. the national average is now up to $3.39 a gallon and fed chairman ben bernanke testifying on capitol hill tuesday said if oil and gas prices do not come down, they could put the nation's economic recovery at risk and ahead of the opening
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bell the dow jones industrial average futures were down 21 points to about 12,000. >> two weeks ago we asked is what happens to greece a year ago with economic recovery, will we see the same thing happen. sounds like fed chair ben bernanke was warning just that. >> will the u.s. get pulled into the chaos in libya? >> with american warships on the way to the region, moammar gadhafi threatens thousands of his own people will die if the u.s. gets involved. >> plus he's in or maybe he's not. will newt gingrich be the first republican to officially get into the 2012 race for president? the former house speaker keeping a lot of people guessing today. we'll get behind that story. first, a look at the president's schedule for a wednesday. you're watching "the daily rundown" on msnbc. act my age? -why? -why? -why? i love the sun. past sun goddess. every line has a story. [ female announcer ] we all age differently.
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>> all of the options beyond the humanitarian assistance and evacuation are complex. if we move additional assets, what are the consequences of that for afghanistan, for the persian gulf, and what other allies are prepared to work with us in some of these things. >> defense secretary robert gates downplaying the likelihood of military intervention in libya, two u.s. warships carrying marines and equipment entered the suez canal this morning dispatched for rescue and humanitarian missions there. >> gadhafi threatened thousands will die if foreign powers intervene. u.s. and allies are weighing how to step up pressure on the libyan regime following international sanctions. we have a visiting fellow at the washington institute and former
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national security council director for middle east affairs and joins us now. you heard secretary gates there. he seemed to be very leery of this idea of the u.s. government going it alone in trying to enforce a no-fly zone. is this a media concoction? is the media having more of a no-fly zone frenzy or is it something that's needed? >> it's not just in the media. the united states has a couple problems here. one is that we look like we're standing on the sidelines. the response so far is coming under increasing criticism as having been simply anemic. it's difficult to understand in a case of libya. maybe you can understand it in egypt where we have a close ally who is under threat. libya it's more difficult to understand. and while i think we need to be quite prudent any time you are talking about military action of course, at the same time the sanctions we put in place so far asset freezes, travel bans and
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so forth increase the stakes for libyan officials and libyan leaders and sort of corner them in a sense. they can't leave libya. they'll be subject to prosecution. at the same time they have all of these tools available to them on the military side. helicopters, warplanes and so forth. you risk sort of creating this situation where you actually increase the chances that they will fight to the last man as gadhafi said and i think we need to think about how we can reduce the risk of violence that the sanctions may create. >> you say the u.s. response feels a bit anemic. we know from our reporting at the white house the administration would say we are purposely trying to wrap ourselves in these multilateral organizations so to not feed into dynamic of us versus libya which they think gadhafi would then exploit. is that not a sufficient reason to act the way the u.s. has been acting? >> i think you would want certainly u.n. security council blessing for any kind of no-fly zone or no-drive zone in libya
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and act in conjunction with nato. that doesn't mean u.s. leadership isn't required. the u.s. will need to lead. we're the ones with the assets and experience and it's unlikely the world is going to come behind some concrete actions without u.s. leadership. i think there's a vacuum there that the u.s. needs to step in and fill and right now you saw john mccain yesterday saying it looks like we're creating excuses. first it was american citizens in country waiting to evacuate them. yesterday you heard secretary clinton say we don't want to look like we're invading for oil. today there were some other reasons given by secretary gates and so we want to avoid that appearance that we're looking for excuses not to act. >> i got to ask you, i want to read you a quote from the russian ambassador to nato. he said this yesterday about this idea of a no-fly zone. if someone in washington is looking for this, any use of military force outside of nato responsibility zone will be
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considered a violation of international law. so he's laying down there's the russians laying down the gauntlet on nato but that's probably going to be their attitude in the united nations. the likelihood of international coalition nato and u.n. seems remote. it has to be what? united states, great britain, france and italy? >> we need to put the question to the russians. the fact is that right now i think that we're making it easy for them. we're not advocating for a no-fly zone. we're not putting out the argument right now that this is a necessary step to address a humanitarian crisis in libya. right now two parties that seem to be downplaying the need for no-fly zone are russia and the united states. that's what we need to avoid. will russia necessarily go along? will china necessarily go along? i don't think we can take any of that for granted. i think we need to put the question to russia and to the chinese and if they want to say no and if they want to put up a fight, we can take it from there and decide what the next course
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of action is. >> we saw an article in "the new york times" and other papers today about the opposition groups and rebel groups in libya having a debate about whether to ask the world for air strikes and to ask for help since it seems to be a stalemated situation. gadhafi obviously lost a tremendous amount of power but he's not gone. what do you think that dynamic is and what would the opposition groups be concerned about if they asked the u.s. or any other country to intervene in their own country? >> obviously they worry about the dynamic or optic rather of appearing to ask for foreign military intervention in their own country against their own government against their own fellow citizens. i think one of the considerations we need to keep in mind is that we shouldn't necessarily put them in a position of having to come to us to beg for this in a sense. if it's clear that it's needed from a humanitarian basis and
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there's support among our european allies, we don't need to wait for consensus to build amongst the libyan opposition. >> is there a concern that the u.s. may be involved in what is a civil war? >> that is one of the concerns. the reason you have to be prudent in the way you think about these things and any time you think about military action is you don't instenecessarily wn open ended commitment. what does it imply for the united states? at the same time you hear talk about libya's air defense and so forth. we have to keep in mind this is one of the missions that the international community and the united states should be willing to take on around the world and we should be prudent but shouldn't hamstring ourselves by saying we're not going to do this because it's complicated or it's hard. >> all right, michael. former mid east director on national security council. thank you for joining us this morning. coming up next, is the ipad already old news? what are we going to do? ipad 2 being unveiled today.
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that's a hit. one a day men's. dporch governor mike huckabee may be contemplating his next presidential move but he's on a press tour promoting his next book. >> he got attention for something he said about the president's upbringing. take a listen. >> don't you think we deserve to know more about this man? >> i would love to know more. what i know is troubling enough and one thing that i do know is his having grown up in kenya, his view of the brits for example very different than the average american. his perspective growing up in kenya with a kenyan father and grandfather, their view of the mau mau revolution is very different than ours because he grew up hearing the british were a bunch of imperialists.
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>> the president did not grow up in kenya. huckabee spokesperson said that he misspoke when he alluded to president obama growing up in kenya. the governor meant to say the president grew up in indonesia but the governor would like to know more about where his liberal policies comes from and what the president plans to do with this country as do most americans. the president grew up in hawaii. >> it was more than a slip up. he talked so much about the kenyan -- about what happened in kenya. but this is actually a problem for republican presidential candidates when they go on these conservative talk shows with these guys some of whom are big conspiracy theorists and will try to bait them and makes them look out of touch from the mainstream. you have a feeling that mike huckabee would never voluntary start talking about a kenyan upbringing unless prompted.
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it's a tricky problem for these republican presidential candidates. >> one other interesting bit in that radio interview where he was asked if huckabee believed the president was born in the u.s. and huckabee said he was certain the president was born in the u.s. but the reason he gave -- >> it was fascinating. a guy from arkansas dealt with clintons that said clintons would have every investigator known to man looking for any evidence that this conspiracy theory about the president was true. if the clintons couldn't find it, it probably means the man was born in hawaii. >> we'll stick with presidential politics up next. newt gingrich is ready to run. is he first one in? depends on who you ask in gingrich land. the story behind he's announcing tomorrow, no he didn't dust up from yesterday. that's coming up. >> today's trivia question from the almanac of american politics. the state of ohio has not voted for a loser in a presidential election since what year? the answer and more. i bet chuck knows.
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the 20 honorees include meryl streep, james taylor and author harper lee. a member of pakistan's cabinet was assassinated this morning in islamabad. gunmen opened fire as he made his way to work. he was the only christian member of the cabinet. he recently called for reforms to pakistan's law which imposes the death penalty for insulting islam. congressman darrell issa's spokesman is out of a job today. he was fired after his boss learned he shared e-mails with reporte reporters. newest chapter on the ongoing charlie sheen's saga. brooke mueller petitioned a judge to remove her sons from sheen's custody. sheen talked about the moment last night when authorities came in and removed his twin boys,
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bob and max. >> i didn't push it. i'm not into resisting the law. and just had to surrender to it knowing that this is now the challenge i claim to be looking for. i'm more than willing to take on this task if anybody thought my focus was directed in a radical capacity, that's going to seem like child's play. >> sheen told nbc that he does not know where his sons are right now and that he'll do whatever he has to do to bring his boys back home. >> the first republican debate airing right here on networks of nbc, msnbc, just two months from today. so far there are zero participants. no one announced. earlier this week it was reported that that newt gingrich would throw his hat in the ring as early as tomorrow at an event in georgia. >> it appears that's not the case for now and in a statement
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gingrich spokesman says to be clear while gingrich is in georgia on thursday but he will not announce the formation of an ex exploratory committee. >> i don't think it tells us much. i assume that newt is going to run. he and his team will make their decisions based on legal requirements and timing. i think it's probably in newt's interest to start running sooner rather than later. some candidates may have an advantage in getting out late being a fresh face and newt's not a fresh face. reagan wasn't a fresh face.
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harry truman wasn't a fresh face. newt has a lot to say. a lot of people have their talking points and then they said it all in a month or two. i'm hunching he declares sooner rather than later. >> i want a quick clarification on what we reported yesterday. we never could confirm. a spokesperson said i'm not confirming these reports. there's a legal difference. there's no such thing as an exploratory committee. when you file for president, there's something that has to do with business dealings that has to do with this idea of actually filing a committee. i want to ask you this. newt gingrich starts out as a well known candidate. well defined by enemies but not by a lot of proponents. he's been out of the fight for the last ten years in some ways. been a commentator but not involved in the fights.
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what does he have to do to reintroduce himself as a new face to the republicans? >> i don't think he'll be a new face. 80% of the public thinks they know newt gingrich. he has positive opportunities and negative ones he has to deal with. people think they know negative things about newt. most aren't true. longer he's out there and has a chance to get into that. i think it makes sense. you want to get through the various urban myths about him and settle those and let them be absorbed and let the public make its judgment but primarily i spent 90 hours a week with him one-on-one for seven years from '90 to '97. i know him personally very well. i know the way his mind works. as the public comes to see the depth of his thinking on so many of the issues, health care, military procurement, you pick the topic, he's gone into
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details of it in a way that's impressive. offsetting that people will decide whether they like him or not. every politician has that. i think the longer he's out there -- give you an example. when i used to be his press secretary i always wanted to book him on "meet the press" because tim russert would spend an hour delving and driving as he could and it was better for newt to have a longer conversation than a shorter one. he would keep revealing his understanding of policy and past the opening colorful statement and get into details. a good, long campaign is good for his campaign. >> for a lot of americans who don't watch politics as closely as maybe all of us do, his image may be frozen in time around 1995, 1996. how can he rise above what in some ways is something of a caricature? >> that's one of the reasons a good long campaign works for him. i think he will rise above it. as people see more of him they will make their judgments and i
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think -- i could be prejudice. i admire him. he's a friend. i think that as they listen to him discuss issues and look at the problems facing this country and never been greater on a policy basis, they can say i would like to have one of those guys running the country. i think that's the way he does it by getting out there and campaigning and discussing issue after issue in depth and in intelligence and let people compare that with other primary challengers and the incumbent. >> what's your concern as a friend of newt gingrich, what's your concern about him as a candidate? what advice would you give him? careful of this pitfall and this pitfall. discipline is a word you often here about newt gingrich because he can lack it. >> he has a creative mind that sometimes taken out by itself so everyone should have message discipline. i'm less worried about that than i am about getting out there and
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just putting in the time to explain stuff. i think it's going to be the advantage and we all -- i worked on a lot of campaigns for a lot of candidates over the years. everybody has a false foot here and there. it's a question of how you recover from them. there's no flowless campaign. there are campaigns where you make mistakes you don't recover from and campaigns where you do. we've seen more than one campaign fatally collapse because they made a mistake. one of the advantages bill clinton always had was he had a fair number of colorful circumstances but his team and he learned how to recover them. newt also has that experience. >> someone who knows newt gingrich well and if he does run, we'll have you back to ask you more about it. >> newt gingrich at the debates will be fun. nothing else having newt in the debates is going to be fun. >> i wouldn't want to be the other guy. >> fascinating to watch. trivia time. the state of ohio has not voted for the loser in a presidential election since what year? the answer is 1960.
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it's now the longest streak, savann savannah. you one time worked in missouri. >> i said missouri when i worked there. >> that was a problem. >> when you're in the middle of missouri, you better say missouri. it's only missouri in st. louis. >> columbia, missouri, it was missouri. >> all right. maybe at the campus. >> we shouldn't fight. coming up, the future king and queen of england go digital. first twitter and now a wedding website. how they are just like any normal couple. we'll countdown to the royal wedding with someone who knows a bit about these matters. >> first, it's the white house soup of the day. it's a favorite of us here frankly. potato and leek. we enjoy it here. they are right across the street. they have darn good soup. we'll be right back. for three hours a week, i'm a coach.
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>> on this day back in 1904, an author was born that we all would adore. today we say happy birthday to dr. seuss who created the grinch and the whos. at age 87, dr. seuss passed away but the stories he wrote will be here to stay. in his honor, it's national read across america day. >> why do i feel like your 5 year old? >> i have to say thank you. i enjoy reading dr. seuss. it's so much fun. >> it's classic. >> the irony is i enjoy it more than my kids. they are getting there. >> don't tell me they are too sophisticated. >> i don't know. they're getting there. >> as we move to more serious topics, maybe we can get rid of
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that dr. seuss music talking about morning issues in the news. middle east undergoing historic change, budget battles in state houses across the country and need we mention charlie sheen. a new space on msnbc is absolutely up to the tasks. martin bashir joins us now. >> martin, great to have you here. what a week. i hate to do this to you, but i want to start with the royals because you have a lot of experience covering the british royal family. as you have seen this roll out of will and kate, it's almost as if they are this last gasp hope of the british royal family to rescue their dignity. >> that's a bit harsh, chuck. i think that savannah's necklace today would be perfectly fitting to wear to the royal wedding should she be invited. >> have you gotten your invite
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yet? >> no. i thought it might come in an e-vite but it hasn't arrived. >> the wedding itself is going digital. they are launching a website about the royal wedding and in a way this is the british royal family waking up. the wedding will be conducted according to the 1662 book of common prayer. readings of scripture will be from king james version of the bible. the bishop of london will preach a sermon. this is a sign that the royal family is really waking up to how to respond to a more modern environment and modern world and kate and william in a way are very different to the predecess predecessors. 30 years ago diana was 19 years old. lady diana then. her prince charming was 31. she hadn't been to university.
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she was working in a nursery. she had very, very little experience of the world. compare that with the now properly titled kathryn middleton. she's 29. the same age as prince william. both had a similar academic experience. went to the same university in the first year they read the same subject. there's a sense in which they are living more like ordinary people as you probably know when they were at university in their third year they lived together most of the time. she apparently stays in buckingham palace now when she's in london. this is a contemporary relationship played out albeit in the historic old fashioned setting of the royal family. >> and your eyes will be on it. glad to have martin here as we watch the royal wedding unfold later in april. i have to ask you about another story in the news which is charlie sheen. i know my familiarity with you comes from your interview that
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you did with michael jackson which formed the basis of his criminal crile and was a big part of that, a trial i covered, i thought about the charlie sheen case and michael jackson and people that surround these stars in hollywood as they are falling apart. i was curious what your perspective was on what we're seeing and witnessing with charlie sheen right now. >> we'll talk to glory allred. when michael jackson was charged in 2005, she issued a lawsuit begging a judge to remove his children and at the time a judge refused and his children were not taken away from them. subsequently we have seen in images on "oprah" and other places that the children seem to be relatively well balanced and reasonably well. here's a man, charlie sheen, appears with a couple porn stars and last night his children are taken away from him.
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as he said today on the "today" show, i have no idea where they are and i don't know why they've been taken. i hope gloria will explain this to us. i'm interested in the legal criteria for the removal of children in an abrupt children. do you know the justification for this? >> i know what the legal standard is. the best interest of the child. that's a very fluid standard and of course dictated by the circumstances of which we don't know. i'm sure they had to present some evidence to a judge to get that. >> i wonder whether there's a level of prejudice against this man because he's so open about his relationships with porn stars and so on as to whether that's become disagreeable. is that a legal justification to take your children away? >> i think that's going to be an interesting question and perhaps one that charlie himself finds a lawyer to ask. martin very quickly, what do you have on today at 3:00? >> we'll be talking about charlie sheen as i said and we'll talk to glory allred.
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the story we're interested in is the nfl potential lockout. last year i did an investigation into brain injury in nfl players. it is staggering. most neurologist will tell you if you have two or more concussions you are likely to suffer some kind of long-term brain injury. i played rugby until i was 45 and i have had two concussions and you may agree i'm brain injured in some way. troy has had 12 concussions. the nfl wants to add two more games to the season and owners want to take money out of the contract. i wonder whether the issue that is not being discussed very much is what this will mean to players. are we seeing real evidence now of premature dementia in nfl players and is that something that this debate about payment and lockout should actually be
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including? >> it's a fascinating issue. martin bashir, we'll be watching at 3:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. thank you for being with us. >> thank you so much. great to see you. >> coming up next, we're going to look at the new ipad. >> we are. illips' colon health defended against the bad gas, diarrhea and constipation. ...and? it helped balance her colon. oh, now that's the best part. i love your work. [ female announcer ] phillips' colon health.
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well, it's become a staple of the daily rundown family, now chuck's beloved ipad rksz getting an upgrade. >> there it is. apple is expected to unveil the second generation of ipad. it's rumored to be slimmer, lighter and possibly white. a camera for video conferencing like the iphones have. check it out. looks to us like it's an ipad peeking out from the corner. joe brown is the feature editor of maybe the greatest website
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ever, gizmodo for a gadget geek like me. i love gizmodo. tell us about ipad two. >> we are not expecting a giant major ground breaking update, something that's more a kin to iphone 3g and the 3gs. it's lighter to hold to watch movies and read. bigger speaker, front facing camera and rear camera as well are the things being talked about now. >> why would people have these other than super devotees like chuck and you. why buy a new ipad if it's not that much of a change from the old ipad? >> it's a good opportunity for those who didn't buy the first version. a lot of people wait for version
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two to see if product takes off or something other people show them has impacted their lives, things like that. i think people super devoted to reading books might like something lighter. that's my problem with it. it's heavy for reading books. >> there's no shrinking of the actual size, right? you say it's going to be lighter. is it going to be smaller in width and length? >> all signs point to it being the same in terms of two-dimensional. the z access, the thickness is probably going to get slimmer. >> is this setting up for ipad three, dare i ask? >> wow. yes. maybe. what it's doing is setting a standard for improvement cycle on the ipad. just like the iphone did, you are seeing it establish a market for a product people didn't know they needed, first. then when they can prove it's
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necessary to make a big jump in the way this product works, they are going to come out with an earth shattering update. ipad two is more of a hammered home proof of concept. >> awesome. >> at what point do they look at it and say you will pick between an ipad and an iphone and more of the things iphone can do ipad can now do. is that one of the goals of apple here? >> i think the case they are investigating with these products is weather you are going to choose between an ipad and mac book air or mac book pro. you are able to do more and more and more on this entertainment device that you would be doing on your home computer. because a lot of people don't use a home computer for serious work, there's a case for these less expensive. it's 500 bucks. your home computer probably cost
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